But
it seems that no matter how much proof you show them from the bible that Jesus
was not divine, that Jesus was not sinless, that Jesus was not a part of any Holy Trinity,
or that Jesus is NOT GOD,
they still cannot allow
rational/logical thought to lead them past the
brainwashing that most of
us Christians have incurred since birth.
Now, I have a question for you. So that my question will not go over your head, I will ask a similar logical question first:
Let’s
say you asked me you take your credit card and pay your cellular phone bill.
When I arrive at the store and they swipe your card, there is absolutely no
money in your account.
Now when I call you and say,
“Hey,
man, there is no money in your account.”
Your
response to me is:
“Yeah,
I know, it’s been empty for a month.”
The
logical question would be,
“If
it was impossible for me to pay your bill, then what was the point of sending me to the phone
company?”
I’m
sure each of you would agree, that this is a logical question right? So let’s
apply that same logic to Jesus being without sin:
“If it was impossible for Jesus to have sinned, then
what was the point of the stories about Jesus being tempted by
worldly things or being tempted by Satan?
Do you get it now? Same logical question applies here too!
How could Jesus be tempted in all-points to sin as we are,
yet Christian scholars can keep a straight face and say Jesus was without sin
(Hebrews 4:15)?
For common sense logic, would dictates that a deity cannot even be
tempted at all right? Do you see how ridiculous the dogma becomes when you
analyze Roman falsehoods?
Theologians claim that Satan's temptations had no effect on Jesus because with him also being 100% God, there wasn't even the slightest chance Jesus could have sinned.
Really?
Then you educated fools, WHAT THEN would be the point? Good grief!
If that is true, then there would be no temptation and the whole story of Jesus' being tempted, would be absolutely pointless and STUPID!
However, Jesus was tempted. We all know this right?
But how can this be? Seeing that our Pastors and the Impostor Paul
claim that Jesus is also God? For the bible clearly says:
James 1:12:
Blessed is the man(human) that endures temptation: for when he is
tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them
that love him.
13 Let no man say
when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for (God cannot be tempted with evil,)
neither tempt he any man:
Are you finally beginning to understand how flawed their exegesis/hypothesis theology really is?
Are you finally beginning to understand how flawed their exegesis/hypothesis theology really is?
Many people say Jesus was:
"100%fully God and 100% fully man."
This has to be the most asinine statement educated men could make. Ask your pastor to show you any scripture that says this?
They will act like a
Matador and Olé all of your legitimate questions:
Because if 100% of something is considered full, how can you put another 100% more of something into it?
Now they actually want us to believe, Jesus was 100% ALL MAN.
Yet they want to add stipulations to their theology and say
this all-man Jesus did not have man's nature to sin, lust, get angry, and want
to punch someone in the face, or have sexual lustful impure thoughts and
get an ERECTION, after looking at the breast or beauty of
a woman?
If Jesus is 100% all man, then he must also have 100% of man's nature
for sin too!
Sorry folks you cannot have it both ways!
So I must then pose the question, Did this alleged member of the Trinity ever commit any sins on earth? To that I must say
YES HE DID & THE BIBLE SAYS SO TOO!
So,
in no particular order, I will list the 5 MAJOR SINS of Jesus along with the
VERSES that prove my assertion is true.
Pay
close attention to the RED highlighted
words, and the capitalized words. They
are very important.
So
let’s begin:
#01: Jesus, like most Hebrews Jews,
was a Bigot and a Racist Separatist who did not like Greek and Roman Gentiles!
big·ot
noun
\ˈbi-gət\
: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people,
ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or
refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or
religious group)
No
I'm sure the closed-minded have either closed the pages of this book or have
clicked off the blog now! For it's amazing how quickly Roman-ized Christians will begin to insult you, use profanity, and call you the devil all because you chose to read and learn and they happiest not knowing and staying ignorant.
I'm sure even you are saying how on earth could Jesus be a bigot?
Well we are told by Paul and the Gentiles that the dark-skinned Hebrew Prophet Yeshua, who witnessed the heinous crimes against the Jews, died for their sins too!
Yeshua/Jesus, witnessed the heinous crimes such as rape, murder, torture and yes even sodomy against the Jews.
Knowing this, the church still wants you and I to believe that Jesus was such a loving messiah, that he would ignore all of the crimes against humanity that he saw?
Get the heck out of here! Jesus wouldn't have turned the other cheek to the oppression, the murders, the rapes and tortures and wanted to teach these HEATHEN unclean murderous pagans dogs about their God? Really?
Knowing this, the church still wants you and I to believe that Jesus was such a loving messiah, that he would ignore all of the crimes against humanity that he saw?
Get the heck out of here! Jesus wouldn't have turned the other cheek to the oppression, the murders, the rapes and tortures and wanted to teach these HEATHEN unclean murderous pagans dogs about their God? Really?
HECK NO!
Jesus, like all oppressed Hebrews HATED the GENTILES MURDERERS!
In fact to this very day, the Gentiles are still called filthy:
Filthy Gentile INFIDEL
Dogs!
So what does the bible really say about Jesus and the Gentiles?
Did Jesus die for their sins or did Jesus NOT want them to have salvation?
The
truth will shock you! Let's see (Pay attention to the words in red!):
Mark 4:11-12
(Jesus)
said to them, to you (Jews) it is given to know the mystery of the
kingdom of God;
but
to outsiders(GENTILES), all these things are done in parables: That they
may see, and not perceive; and they (GENTILES)
may hear, and
not understand; lest at any time they (GENTILES) should be converted, and their (GENTILES) sins should be forgiven them.
not understand; lest at any time they (GENTILES) should be converted, and their (GENTILES) sins should be forgiven them.
Oh my Jesus! Tell us how you really feel!
Christians don't want any part of this verse!
HMM? Did you catch that?
Did you see how angry and vengeful the human original Jesus actual was?
Come on? Folks, stop shaking your heads and calling me the devil! I didn't invent these words! You read them straight from the mouth of Jesus!
Folks did you clearly, clearly, clearly hear Jesus explain the reason "WHY" he speaks in parables instead of just teaching straight truth?
He says, and I quote:
YIKES! What the heck?
"This is done so that GENTILES that are listening can hear God's words of salvation but to make sure they won't understand salvation and how to repent SO that they WON'T be SAVED!!!"
YIKES! What the heck?
You
mean to tell me, that this man Jesus doesn't want people to be saved?
YEP, you heard it straight from Jesus' own mouth folks!
Human Jesus was OUT OF CONTROL! FOLKS!
Jesus tells His Disciples:
Don’t teach these GENTILE DOGS the TRUTH,
lest at anytime they might be “CONVERTED/CHANGE
AND their SINS, SINS, SINS, SINS, be “FORGIVEN THEM?” Wow! Wow! Wow!
There
is a saying in the military that goes:
“Kill them all and let God sort them out!”
Jesus
echoes this sentiment totally!
So
Jesus didn’t want these GENTILE'S SINS to ever be FORGIVEN?
Proving yet again that the dying on the cross for everyone's sins dogma is ridiculous! YEP folks! You heard this straight from JESUS’ own mouth! Amazing isn’t it?
Proving yet again that the dying on the cross for everyone's sins dogma is ridiculous! YEP folks! You heard this straight from JESUS’ own mouth! Amazing isn’t it?
Does this sound like someone who wants to DIE for the sins of these Gentile Dogs?
HECK
NO!
For it shows the true JESUS/YESHUA, who lived through the horrors of Greece and Rome and Caesar had absolutely no love whatsoever for any of these Gentile oppressive dogs.
As said by Jesus, He never wanted Gentiles to learn about the Most High God and wanted them to actually DIE an excruciating miserable death!
You just can’t make this stuff up!
It’s all clearly written in the bible for us to see!
Jesus
openly says:
Matthew 7:6
"Do
not give what is holy (SCRIPTURES) to (GENTILES) DOGS!, and do not throw your pearls before swine(GENTILES), or they
(GENTILES) will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you (JEWS)
to pieces.
So in true essence Jesus tells his Disciples and followers;
"Give not the salvation providing holy scriptures unto these unclean GENTILE DOGS! And do not throw or (TEACH) your pearls of "wisdom/knowledge" to these murderous swine!"
Now I see why Jesus compared himself later on in the scriptures to JONAS;
Jesus
was just as rebellious as he was!
Now
we have Jesus admitting why he spoke in parables. It was so the Gentile nations
would not be able to repent and be saved!
As you can see, I didn't make any of this up!
You
read it for yourself and this is truly a sinful nature of Jesus no one ever talks about!
Jesus was in fact a prejudiced-bigot who was not willing to forgive these people for their crimes against the Jews and did not want any of his Disciples to go into any of their lands to teach them anything concerning their God and Salvation!
Jesus
says:
Matthew 10:5
These
twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among
the Gentiles or enter any town of
the Samaritans.
Matthew 10:6 Go
rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7As
you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’
So clearly Jesus wanted the LOST SHEEP of Israel only to be saved both from the hands of Greece and Rome and saved in the form of repentance of sins!
So clearly Jesus wanted the LOST SHEEP of Israel only to be saved both from the hands of Greece and Rome and saved in the form of repentance of sins!
No
Gentiles allowed here folks! A definite sin against God's word!
Now do you think I am still stretching this a bit? Well let's go a bit farther and see what happens when an actual GENTILE woman comes seeking YHWH the God of the Jews through Jesus.
Surely the Jesus we all heard about will quickly come
to this Gentile woman's rescue right? WRONG!!!
The Faith of a Canaanite Woman
MATTHEW 15:22
A Canaanite (GENTILE) woman
from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on
me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
Now surely Jesus will stop to rescue this damsel in distress right? Let's see:
MATTHEW 15:23
23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
Now let's play the "Jesus advocate" here and say that it was too noisy and Jesus didn't hear this woman's pleas for help. Well according to the above verse the Disciples heard it and were annoyed at this Gentile dog following them.
Notice they didn't say master this woman needs help, Ooooh no! They asked Jesus if he would finally send this unclean Gentile woman away! Unbelievable!
So what do you think Jesus our so-called savior of sins reply was to his Disciples about her? Let's see:
MATTHEW 15:24
He (JESUS) answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
Come on? This cannot be? So Jesus agreed with the Disciples and refused to help her and openly states that He was not sent to help any of these Gentiles Dogs but was sent ONLY, ONLY, ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel! How on earth will Christians get past this admission by Jesus?
Now apparently the woman wasn't accepting Jesus' answer to leave and wasn't giving up! Let's see what happens next:
MATTHEW 15:25
The woman (GENTILE) came and
knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
Now we see this woman has skipped over the Disciples and is kneeling down in front of Jesus. If a Hebrew woman who simply touched the hem of his garment can be healed surely Jesus is not going to not heed to the pleas of a woman who is falling in front of him on her knees begging right? What do you think Jesus' reply to her was? Let's see:
MATTHEW 15:26
He replied, “It is not right to
take the children’s bread(KNOWLEDGE/SALVATION) and toss it to the (GENTILE)
dogs.”
Say it 'aint so Jesus? Say it 'aint so!
Jesus hatred for these murderous Gentiles is clouding his judgment! This is probably why Hebrews 5 says Jesus suffered because he was DIS-obedient!
Now something Godly happened next! Do you remember the Pulp Fiction movie phrase:
"I'm
about to go medieval on
him?"
Well this Gentile woman, did something similar,
Folks not getting the help she needed from Jesus. This Gentile woman decided to go:
BIBLICAL ON JESUS! on Jesus!
Let's see!
HER RESPONSE:
MATTHEW 15:27
But she said, "Yes, Lord; but
even the (GENTILE)dogs feed on the crumbs which fall from their MASTER'S(YHWH)'
table."
WOW!
She TOLD HIM!
This woman knew more about the God of the JEWS than Jesus thought!
When Jesus said no to her, this woman invoked the TORAH and the LAWS of Moses on Jesus which says if the GENTILES come to any Hebrew Jew and seeks their God they are to fully comply and be a light to the Gentiles and teach them Salvation and the ways of God's law:
EXODUS 12:48
And when a stranger (GENTILE)shall
sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his (GENTILE)males be circumcised, and then
let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that
is born in the land: for no uncircumcised(GENTILE) person shall eat thereof.
49 ONE LAW shall be to him that is
homeborn, and unto the (GENTILE) stranger that sojourneth among you.
But the stranger (GENTILE)that
dwelleth with you shall be unto you AS ONE born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in
the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
So as you can see folks from God's own words:
the GENTILES always had the right to salvation long before Paul's version of Jesus ever came on the scene!
So
by using the scriptures above, the Gentile woman forced Jesus' hand and he had
no choice but to heal the woman!
I want to believe this story was an eye opener to Jesus; for he did say afterwards that her faith was strong and he did finally heal her daughter.
Let's hope so.
#02: The BOOK of HEBREWS admits
that JESUS the HIGH PRIEST, was originally a SINFUL MAN!
Now, folks pay close attention to this part as written in actual context in the book of Hebrews. Because the writer is first, laying down a informative contextual narrative for us to follow which he will then apply directly to Jesus.
DON'T FORGET this because it is crucial to getting clarity to what the people originally knew about Jesus before the Greeks and Romans changed many parts of the bible for their own purposes:
Hebrews 5:1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:
2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that
are out of the way; for that he himself ALSO is compassed with infirmity (SINS).3 And
by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for HIMSELF, to offer for sins. 4 And
no man taketh this honour unto himself, but HE that is CALLED of
God, as was Aaron.
So
far as you can see, the writer explains that the High Priest not only has to
offer sacrifices to God for the sins of the people, but notice in verse two, it
clearly states that EVERY single High priest also is filled with his "OWN"
sins just like you and I.
Again people, clearly Verse 03 finishes the writer's thoughts that this Chosen High Priest ALSO has to offer sins for HIS OWN sins too.
Again Did you get that? his OWN sins too!
Lastly, vs.01 and vs 04 tells us that all of these SIN-FILLED men are HUMAN and are CHOSEN by God to be a High Priest.
So how does this apply to Jesus you ask?
Well the writer explains how these SINS apply to Jesus in the very next verses! GET READY! HOLD YOUR HATS!
Hebrews 5:5: So also Christ(JESUS) glorified not himself to be made an high
priest;
but HE/GOD that said unto him, Thou(JESUS) art my Son, (TODAY)have I
(BEGOTTEN/CHOSEN) thee(JESUS)!
WOW!
Did you get that? SO, ALSO JESUS! WOW!
Now we know why it took 325 years for the Roman church to add Jesus into the Trinity!
For clearly the bible says,
Jesus only became known as a "SON" of God only after GOD CHOSE/BEGOT him on that VERY DAY! WOW!
Now we know why it took 325 years for the Roman church to add Jesus into the Trinity!
For clearly the bible says,
Jesus only became known as a "SON" of God only after GOD CHOSE/BEGOT him on that VERY DAY! WOW!
Which
proves the "Before ABRAHAM; I AM" scripture(John 8:58). was an
added lie by some false Pro-Trinity ghostwriter!
As you can see, these are not my words! These words are in every single Christian New Testament bible.
But that is not all FOLKS!
There
is much more REVEALING information a few verses down!
Let's take a look!
Let's take a look!
Hebrews
5:7 Who in the days of his (JESUS') flesh, when he(JESUS) had offered up prayers and supplications with
strong crying and tears unto him/GOD that was able to save him from death, and was
HEARD in that he feared;
WAIT a moment! Did
you catch this SECRET scripture that someone FORGOT to edit out of the
bible?
Read
the verse again as I explain what it just said.
·
When Jesus was in his flesh, i.e. STILL ALIVE,
When Jesus was in his flesh, i.e. STILL ALIVE,
· When he had offered up prayers in the Garden of Gethsemane
unto God and BEGGED and PLEADED for God to SAVE him from DYING,
· The scripture tells us that Jesus' prayers TO BE SAVED from
DEATH were eventually HEARD by God?
Oh
My! Yes, I already know what your next question is:
"Are you telling me that GOD spared Jesus from dying on the cross?
I am not telling you anything!
The BIBLE just told you this was the truth!
Forgotten verses like these gives validity to books like:
"The Da
Vinci Code and
Holy Blood Holy Grail."
Holy Blood Holy Grail."
Now though these two books are very good. There is a wonderful new book that confirms the story of Hebrews and says Jesus in fact did escape death upon the cross. This insightful and controversial book is called
Jesus: The Rise of the Nazarene!
This
book is available at all book sites. Hear is the Amazon.com link to it.
Now,
as far as the SINS of Jesus, the next two verses are DEVASTATING the the
theology of Rome and speaks about Jesus' DEFINITE SINS!
Let's see:
Let's see:
Hebrews
5:8: Though he/JESUS were (
A )
Son/prophet, yet LEARNED he(JESUS) OBEDIENCE by the things which
he SUFFERED;
OH! OH! OH! I had to interrupt! Clearly read that again!
For in retrospect, the writer tells us that human Jesus was not"
"THE" one and only son from a Trinity-esque heaven.
This writer's original thoughts before editing by Rome, was that Jesus was nothing more than "A" mere son of God; just like all the other sons/prophets of God like King David or Isaiah which God also begat/chose as His sons also.
That is very damaging to the "Jesus being a god and the Trinity doctrine.
But look at even more damaging information in verse 08!
It says, Jesus had to:
LEARN HOW to OBEY GOD
by the things which he suffered. WOW!
Wow! Clearly before the biblical editing of the bible, the writer originally believed that
#01. Jesus was SINFUL!
#02. GOD punished Jesus and made him SUFFER because of his LACK of OBEDIENCE a.k.a. Sinful ways!
Again I didn't make any of this up.
You read the verse on your own!
Now we all know that this Greek written text has the Roman-ized version of Jesus disobeying God, changing God's laws and seemingly rebelling against God's laws.
Now could these actions be considered sinful?
Yes they can!
What laws of God did these writers have Jesus change? Let's see:
· Who declared all foods to be clean?
(Greco-Roman Jesus!)
· Who went against God’s rules on fasting?
(Greco-Roman Jesus!)
· Who went against the rules on divorce?
(Greco-Roman Jesus!)
· Who altered or ignored God’s dietary
laws?
(Greco-Roman Jesus!)
· Who went against God’s rules concerning the
Sabbath? (Greco-Roman Jesus!)
· Who went against God’s rules on adultery?
(Greco-Roman Jesus!)
· Who went against the washing of hands before
dining? (Greco-Roman Jesus!)
So think about it?
These Greek and Roman writings want us to believe that
A HEBREW who told you in Matthew 5:17, 18, 19 that he did NOT COME to change any of the laws of Moses would suddenly do all of these evil things against God? Really?
HECK NO! Unless he is guilty of sinning against God!
Christians claim Jesus is God. However, Christians will never apply logic and think about this statement below:
"If
God gave the law to Moses, and then God/Jesus comes down and "changes"
the laws of Moses, that means God is a liar right? Because the bible clearly says
that God does "not change?"
Malachi 3:6
I
am the LORD and I DO NOT CHANGE. That is why you descendants of Jacob are not already destroyed.
Knowing this then, clearly if Jesus taught all of the above things God would bring wrath down upon him like the book of Hebrews is saying!
Let's get back to Hebrews shall we:
Now after God punishes Jesus, apparently Jesus, like the Jews, finally got the point!
Jesus then repents of his sins and God forgives him and Jesus is cleansed/sanctified of all unrighteousness and therefore is made "perfect!"
Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect ( cleansed), he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
So in finishing the author's thoughts,
Jesus endured his beating, and torture because of his OWN SINS and disobedience, NOT because of ours folks.
Now according to verse 09, after God SAVED Jesus and FORGAVE Him of His OWN sins, Jesus was SANCTIFIED/CLEANSED of his own sins.
(personal note:) Pay close attention to the sanctified/cleansed of his sins words I just used. Later, I will give you Jesus' own words where he verifies this fact.
The final words of vs. 09 says that after this sanctification of sins process,
Jesus finally reaches "SON" status with God.
Jesus, now A son/prophet of God, is now qualified to go and teach the good news to the people.
He has now BECOME the author/teacher/rabbi of eternal salvation to all that would listen and obey him.
Are you FINALLY understanding the truth yet? Jesus clearly sinned and you cannot argue with the bible in context!
Let's move on.
Jesus, now A son/prophet of God, is now qualified to go and teach the good news to the people.
He has now BECOME the author/teacher/rabbi of eternal salvation to all that would listen and obey him.
Are you FINALLY understanding the truth yet? Jesus clearly sinned and you cannot argue with the bible in context!
Let's move on.
#03: JESUS ADMITS that He was a
normal son of man that also has SINS like all men!!
John 10:36
'Say
ye of him(Jesus), whom the Father hath sanctified(Cleansed
of sins), and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I
(Jesus) said, I am the Son of God?"
WOW!
Most Pastors and Theologian will get so angry at you for mentioning the above
verse.
01.
Jesus by his OWN ADMISSION,was not sinless !
02,
This type of knowledge will affect their profit margins!
But
I'm sorry, If our own teacher, Jesus admits that he also was a sinful man,
"How can we keep making these false claims that he was sinless or 100% man and also 100% God?
Seems pretty Ridiculous now that we've heard Jesus contradicting it right?
"How can we keep making these false claims that he was sinless or 100% man and also 100% God?
Seems pretty Ridiculous now that we've heard Jesus contradicting it right?
John 17:19
And
for their sakes I sanctify (Cleansed of sins),
myself, that they also might be sanctified through the
truth.
Now some may foolishly say:
"See
Jesus is God because he sanctified himself!"
To those same fools I would say:
God is sinless, so how can he cleanse/sanctify that which is already sanctified duh!?"
Think people!
So, then this is not Jesus saying that he is God!
He is saying that he is merely atoning for his own SINS like the book of Hebrews says the High Priests also does by cleansing himself, and repenting from his own wicked ways.
How hard was that to understand?
The other sons of God, the Levites and the High Priest also cleansed/sanctified themselves and turned from their sins in the verse below:
2 Chronicles 30:15
Then
they killed the passover on the fourteenth day of the second month: and the
priests and the Levites were ashamed, and (sanctified
themselves,) and brought in the burnt offerings into the
house of the Lord.
So as you can see from the verse above, even the Levites and also you and I can
sanctify ourselves and stop sinning!
Do you finally understand the true context now?
Do you finally understand the true context now?
Now we all heard of John the Baptist or John the Baptizer right?
Well as you already know the practice of water baptism was already in effect.
For the purpose of baptism was for one to be cleanse from all of their sins. This is also spoken of in the book of Matthew:
Mathew 3:5:
Then
went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about
Jordan,6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing
their sins.8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
So there is no debate there about the purpose of baptism and we all know that Jesus also knew it's purpose too:
The Baptism of Jesus
According
to the New Testament, baptism is a command, not an option (see, e.g., Mt 28:19;
Ac 10:28). Baptism is a deed, an act of "works", which consists
of a full immersion in water. What is the purpose of baptism?
·
Belief and baptism are required for salvation. (Mark16:16)
·
Repentance and baptism are for the remission of sins. (Acts
2:38)
·
Baptism washes away sins. (Acts 22:16)
·
Baptism brings salvation. (1 Peter 3:21)
Baptism is a public testimony of faith in Jesus.
[Ro 6:3; 1 Cor 12:13; Gal 3:27] (THE LIES OF PAUL/SATAN!)
This
list embodies the ongoing conflict in the New Testament between
"works" and "faith" as a path to salvation.
The
first four items reflect the position of the apostle James, Jesus' very own
brother and "HAND-TAUGHT" Disciple that "… faith without
works is dead …" (Ja 2:26[KJV]).
The
last item reflects the false view of the lying false prophet, the apostle Paul,
that "… by grace are ye saved through faith; … Not of works lest ...”
(Eph 2:8-9[KJV]). However, there is a much more serious issue here than
just this internal contradiction of Paul's foolish writings.
The
New Testament records the accounts of Jesus coming to be baptized by John the
Baptizer (Mt 3:13-15; Mk 1:9; Lk 3:21).
Now
you guys already know from other postings that I believe these gospels have
been edited over and over again by the Romans.
For
even the baptism story is flawed and told in contradictory versions. However,
the account in the Gospel of Matthew tells us that John "allegedly"
questions the need for Jesus to be baptized by him. Yet if one reads on,
Jesus clearly shows us that he like all sinners had to be baptized because
"… thus it becometh us(Jesus) to fulfill all righteousness
…" Matthew 3:15:
In other words, Jesus himself wanted to demonstrate how to have sins removed and obtain salvation.
Wow! So what part of this is still confusing to any of us now?
Notice Jesus is not in conflict with the Torah teachings or with his own knowledge of his sins?
The only conflict is with the Satanic Roman version of a sinless Jesus to take away our sins?
Conclusion: Jesus did not consider himself sinless.
Now you read that Jesus told us that He too was
CLEANSE/Sanctified and sent into the world.
It happened during this process and this is when Jesus finally became " A" son of God.
This process isn't new, For God sanctified/cleansed Isaiah' sins with a hot coal!
It happened during this process and this is when Jesus finally became " A" son of God.
This process isn't new, For God sanctified/cleansed Isaiah' sins with a hot coal!
Isaiah 6:5
Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.
Isaiah 6:6
Then flew one of the Seraphims (ANGELS) unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: 7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine INIQUITY/SINS is taken away, and thy SINS purged.
Then flew one of the Seraphims (ANGELS) unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: 7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine INIQUITY/SINS is taken away, and thy SINS purged.
How about that folks? Not one drop of Jesus' blood is shed, yet Isaiah's sins/iniquities are removed and purged by God. Wow How about that!
So clearly folks, God clearly didn't need to clone himself into a human form and die just so we can be forgiven!
As you have read, YHWH/God has always been forgiving sins LONG before, the Greeks gave us their FALSE gospel text which they claim Jesus came to die for every one's sins.
So sad really! Yet you and I know, hard-headed folks will still deny that God doesn't need Jesus for this purpose regardless of how many time God says he is powerful enough to do this alone...
So clearly folks, God clearly didn't need to clone himself into a human form and die just so we can be forgiven!
As you have read, YHWH/God has always been forgiving sins LONG before, the Greeks gave us their FALSE gospel text which they claim Jesus came to die for every one's sins.
So sad really! Yet you and I know, hard-headed folks will still deny that God doesn't need Jesus for this purpose regardless of how many time God says he is powerful enough to do this alone...
Let's continue.
Now just like Jesus and Isaiah, another son of God, Jeremiah also admits to this same sin-cleansing/sanctification process too!
Jeremiah
1:5
Before I
formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou came forth
out of the womb I sanctified/CLEANSED
thee, and I ordained thee a prophet(SON OF GOD) unto the nations.
As
much as I dislike Paul, even his writings tell us how one becomes "
A" son of God:
Romans 15:16
That
I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the
gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable,
being sanctified/CLEANSEDby
the Holy Ghost.
So he too claims he was sanctified/CLEANSED of his sins by the Holy Spirit/GOD. He also teaches others the process of how God prepares one to become " A" son of GOD below:
2nd Timothy 2:21
If
a man therefore purge himself from
these, (SINS)he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified/CLEANSED and meet for the master's use, and
prepared unto every good work.
Once again, even this verse says that Jesus, the Levites and you and I can repent and purge ourselves from our own sins and then God can begat/choose us as his sons and be used for the "MASTER'S USE" to do good works unto the Lord, Amen!
Now since you have read the verses on your own, the Pastor's can no longer tell deceive you any longer. Conclusion: JESUS sinned and repented!
Are there any more SINS that Jesus committed? Yes, many more! Let's look below:
#04: JESUS COMMITTED SIN AND
NEEDED ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASSES AFTER HE BECAME ANGRY and COMMITTED ASSAULT AND
PROPERTY DAMAGE!!
Now, I'm sure, some of you are saying I am crazy and that Jesus was a peaceful man who never did any harm to anyone. Yet the bible clearly shows us that Jesus was guilty of sinning, by allowing Satan to cloud his judgment when he became angry at the money changers in the temple:
John 1:13:
And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and
doves, and the changers of money sitting:
Okay let's stop here a moment. It is Passover and Jesus saw the money changers sitting at the temple selling oxen, sheep and doves.
QUESTION:
Now was anything wrong with them being there? Absolutely NOT!
For
the money changers were supposed to be at the temple!
According to God's word, thou shalt have no GRAVEN IMAGES inside of the temple.
On the currency of the times, Caesar's face was engraved on the coins so the money was not allowed inside of the temple, hence the purpose for the money changers.
Now although the writer of John doesn't say these men were doing anything insincere outside of performing their normal duties, we can assume from the other gospel stories, that they may have been cheating the people in some way.
Let's assume this is true and Jesus discovered this, what is a law-abiding citizen such as Jesus supposed to do in this situation hmm? He is supposed to go to the authorities, such as the high priest, the Levites, the temple guards, the Grecian soldiers, or anyone in command and report the alleged crimes that he witnessed.
Does Jesus do just that? Oh noooooo! Jesus becomes outraged at what he allegedly witnesses.
Jesus then becomes psycho; taking the LAW into his own hands!
Let's see what he did:
15 And when he (Jesus) had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
So
instead of being obedient to the governing
laws, or reporting the thieves to the proper authorities, Jesus decides
to become as a thug and invoked his own sort of vigilante mob justice
and began to assault these men and scourged/beat them up with a painful corded
whip! Yes, he beat them with a WHIP FOLKS, KUNTA KINTE STYLE!!! What a HYPOCRITE!
Now when the vigilante mob attempted to do the same thing Jesus did and wanted to stone the woman for her alleged injustice, Jesus prevented them from doing so, yet he is hypocritical when it comes to his own vigilante anger? Really?
So its okay for Jesus to take the law into his own hands in mob vigilante justice, but everyone else should turn the other cheek? Yeah, Whatever!
After assaulting the men, Jesus then caused property damage and destroyed their livelihood and overthrew their tables, causing all of their animals to escape. Then in anger, he tossed all of their money onto the ground possibly causing all of the people in attendance to break the commandments by stealing their coins and property. Total sin here folks!
If you or I would have done this, we would have been in jail for assault and battery!!!
Now how sad is this?
Seeing the sins Jesus committed in the temple,
the ghost writer of John made a ridiculous attempt at damage control by trying to justify Jesus' crimes by inventing an Old Testament prophecy when there was none:
John 1:17
17 And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.
What the????
So, this is the best that this ghost writer can come up with as justification for Jesus' criminal behavior?
Now, the quoted Old Testament verse this writer uses isn't even a prophecy at all, it is a prayer of David about his own disobedience to God and how his enemies are attacking his kingdom. For the Psalms states in true context:
Psalms 69:9
9 For the Zeal of thine house hath eaten me up: and the "reproaches" of them (enemies) that reproached thee are fallen upon me (King David).
Like
I said earlier, the Roman Empire's Popes, Bishops, Cardinals, and Scribes,
never thought that the common man and woman would ever have personal copies and
access to the written word.
So these errors and lies were of little concern as long as the money continued to flow into their coffers.
So these errors and lies were of little concern as long as the money continued to flow into their coffers.
Now
many Christians will still attempt to justify this by saying, they were in his
Father's house and cheating the people.
As I have said,
if this is true, Jesus still had no authority to go against man's law because the high priest was the main figure in charge that was standing in authority and who Jesus also was subjected to; especially when man's laws are not in contradiction to God's laws. Even Paul knew this and stated this fact:
Romans 13:1-3
"Let every person be subject
to the governing authorities.
For there is no authority except
from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
Therefore whoever resists the
authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who
resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to
good conduct, but to bad."
So even Paul, in some of his rare good days occasionally taught sound doctrine.
Notice
Paul says we and JESUS, are to be subjected to governing authorities, and not
take the law into our own hands.
Jesus
ignored this truth, even though he himself taught this same truth to the people
when he said the following words:
He
sinned when He used
Luke 20:25:
He (Jesus) said to them,
“Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God
the things that are God's.”
Clearly Jesus knew right from wrong, but allowed his SINFUL nature to get the better of him.
In
fact Jesus contradicts his own actions in the following verse below:
“You have heard
that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’
39 But I tell
you not to resist
an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.
40 If anyone
wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let
him have your cloak
also.
41 And whoever
compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and
from him who wants to borrow from you do
not turn away.”
Really
Jesus? So if someone wants to take away our tunic, let them have it and give
him my cloak too?
- But you beat the hell out of the money changers?
- Why didn't you let them have the money and the DOVES TOO? That is what you taught right?
So
I guess the rules does not apply to you huh?
I think this enough proof for this subject.
Instead of calling the authorities,
violent radical thug Jesus is above the law huh?
Conclusion:
Man, I can hear the statements!
Now, if he was the heavy tool wielding construction worker type.
This would definitely fit in with the strong radical Jesus who said He didn't come for "PEACE" but to cause division.
This would also negate the weak and feeble looking Jesus that the Roman Church portrays hanging on the cross which garners such sympathy from us.
The strong radical and defiant Jesus would be able to defend himself and beat the heck out of the money changers in the temple.
Now the Romans can't have that can they?
I mean their "die for your sins" Jesus has to be weak, and humble as a lamb for us to cheer right?
The photo below is how Rome wanted us to see Jesus.
So we know, this strong defiant type of Jesus can never be spoken of!
So let's go to the other scenario below: Fat Jesus!
Like most hard working construction workers, I’m sure Jesus drank and let off steam too.
Now, we all have been led to believe that Jesus hung out with sinners to convert them. That may not have always been the case.
Mat 11:19
Let’s look again at the scriptures from matthew:
Mat 11:19
JESUS was on the overweight side!
As Hebrews chapter 5 says:
Only after Jesus’ conversion Jesus finally began teaching truth to the people. Thus the eventual hatred.
I think this enough proof for this subject.
Instead of calling the authorities,
violent radical thug Jesus is above the law huh?
Conclusion:
Jesus sinned against these money changers!
Let’s
move on…
#05: JESUS was a overweight gluttonous alcoholic lush who was originally the life of the party!?"
Man, I can hear the statements!
“YOU
HAVE GONE TO FAR THIS TIME SIR!”
Now
on the surface I know you think I am attacking Jesus.
But I’m not. I am merely showing you how the Greco-Roman church is guilty of the first instances of “photo-shopping” a person’s image from the normal human nature.
But I’m not. I am merely showing you how the Greco-Roman church is guilty of the first instances of “photo-shopping” a person’s image from the normal human nature.
Now
folks, what was Jesus’ occupation? He was a carpenter right? This means Jesus
was either
- A typical muscular hard working blue collar construction worker
or
- An overweight butt-crack showing blue collar construction worker.
Now, if he was the heavy tool wielding construction worker type.
This would definitely fit in with the strong radical Jesus who said He didn't come for "PEACE" but to cause division.
This would also negate the weak and feeble looking Jesus that the Roman Church portrays hanging on the cross which garners such sympathy from us.
The strong radical and defiant Jesus would be able to defend himself and beat the heck out of the money changers in the temple.
Now the Romans can't have that can they?
I mean their "die for your sins" Jesus has to be weak, and humble as a lamb for us to cheer right?
The photo below is how Rome wanted us to see Jesus.
So we know, this strong defiant type of Jesus can never be spoken of!
So let's go to the other scenario below: Fat Jesus!
Like most hard working construction workers, I’m sure Jesus drank and let off steam too.
Now, we all have been led to believe that Jesus hung out with sinners to convert them. That may not have always been the case.
Let’s
look at the scriptures:
Mat 11:19
The Son of man came
eating and drinkinga(LIQUOR), and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber,
a friend of publicans and sinners.
Sounds as if Jesus was the life of the party huh?
We know at the wedding of Cana, when they ran out of wine
for the party, Jesus saved the day by turning ordinary wine into the best
tasting wine!
Yep, Jesus saved the day and the people were able to do what
party people do! Drink excessively, Party, get frisky, get horny, and have
drunken sexual relations!
After making this good ‘ole wine, can’t you hear the
thankful party people saying:
“Go Jesus! Go Jesus! Go Jesus! Go Jesus! Cause ‘aint no party like a Hebrew party cause a Hebrew party don’t stop!”
Now the record is made in Matt. 11, that one of the
"accusations" that came against Jesus by the Pharisees, was that he
was a "glutton".
You do not accuse skinny people of being
"gluttons".
GLUTTON:
From phagos {fag'-os}
AV - gluttonous 2; 2
1) a voracious man, a glutton
from phago {fag'-o} n m
a primary verb (used as an alternate of 2068 in
certain tenses);;
Translated: eat 94, meat (noun) 3; 97, as in "meaty"(Adj.)
glut·ton (gl¾t“n) n. 1. A person who eats or consumes
immoderate amounts of food and drink. [Middle English glotoun, from Old French
gloton, from Latin glutt½, glutt½n-.] (Gulo gulo), having a heavyset body
Let’s look again at the scriptures from matthew:
Mat 11:19
The Son of man
came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber,
a friend of publicans and sinners.
According
to this scripture the human Jesus was well known to everyone:
· To be a
GLUTTON:
Translation: JESUS was on the overweight side!
·
JESUS consumed a whole lot of alcohol!
To be a
WINEBIBBER:
Translation: JESUS consumed a whole lot of alcohol!
· A friend of PUBLICANS & SINNERS:
Translation:
Hanging out is different from ministry!
Jesus wasn't necessarily hanging out with sinners to correct people of their sins!
Translation:
Hanging out is different from ministry!
Jesus wasn't necessarily hanging out with sinners to correct people of their sins!
Remember folks people don’t like change and they don't want to hear a bible thumping holy roller ruining their fun!
Anyone of us who have tried to teach the truth already know that:
Anyone of us who have tried to teach the truth already know that:
"You cannot be a friend to the world and serve God too!"
Every
true man of God when they are converted teaches the total truth of God and
people will hate you for it! Jesus was a friend of these people according to
scriptures.
As Hebrews chapter 5 says:
Jesus suffered at the hands of God for his OWN sins.
Only after Jesus’ conversion Jesus finally began teaching truth to the people. Thus the eventual hatred.
The
Publicans and sinners would then turn on him and despise and reject him like every other prophet/son of God!
So as you can see, the true Jesus was a normal man guilty of sins just like all prophets and just like you and I! Enough said.
So as you can see, the true Jesus was a normal man guilty of sins just like all prophets and just like you and I! Enough said.
Let's
move on...
#06: JESUS AS A
"CHILD", DISOBEYED HIS PARENTS,
WANDERS OFF CAUSING GREAT WORRY AND ANGUISH for THREE WHOLE DAYS!
Why
does the New Testament not tell us about Jesus childhood, and teenage
years?
So, surely these alleged "INSPIRED" men who wrote the gospels had some information about Jesus' early life right? Come on?
I mean, NONE of them were there at this alleged VIRGIN birth, yet these ghost writers expect us to BLINDLY believe that they can tell us "word-for-word" the dialogue allegedly between Mary and the Angel and exactly what events took place.
But yet from ages 12 to 30 nothing but silence? Really?
Well I believe it's because in order for the Greco-Roman Church to prove Jesus is an alleged God/Trinity member, the sins of Jesus as a child would damage their theologies' credibility.
So since they have all the power, then just simply omit it. No harm no foul! What sins in Jerusalem stays buried in Jerusalem huh?"
The sad part is, there are many Apocrypha books written in the Hebrew language that tells the story of Jesus' early years, such as:
the "Infancy of Jesus" and
the "Book of Mary."
However if you do not have access to these books, I mentioned a book above that includes the early years of Jesus in great detail.
Along with other omitted and theology damaging stories, this book includes passages where Jesus as a child became so angry at His mother for ignoring his gift, that he set her sheets on fire, thereby causing her to be badly burned in the fire. Check out the book:
Jesus: The Rise of the Nazarene!
This book is available at all book sites.
Hear
is the Amazon.com link to it.
Now,
if Jesus was 100% man, he had to be 100% child, youth and teenager too
right?
So here are a few questions that all of us want to know but are afraid to ask for fear of being called a heretic or unsaved:
So here are a few questions that all of us want to know but are afraid to ask for fear of being called a heretic or unsaved:
- So did Jesus know what it is like to receive discipline?
- Did Mary or Joseph ever offer Correction to him? Or was Jesus the perfect little boy who never got in any trouble and minded his manners?
- Did he tell the truth when James or Jude his brother broke something or did things they weren't supposed to do or did sinless Jesus live by the adage: W.W.J.D. What would JESUS do and go to his Parents and squeal on his brothers and tell of their mischievous ways?
- When Joseph and Mary were about to discipline their other children, did the alleged 100% God boy, step in and intercede on behalf of his other brothers and sisters?
- Did Jesus order Joseph and Mary to stand down and forbade them from punishing their other children because he had already "FORGAVE" the other kids thereby undermining their parent's authority?
- If we are to believe that Jesus was the perfect sinless son, how do you think it made his other brothers and sisters feel? Any resentment?
Of
course they would have resentment and jealousy and so would you!
I mean what kid would want to be the
"Jan Brady" to Jesus' "Marsha Brady?"
Wow, can't you just imagine the scene,
James would play some childhood game and make an error and then perfect little Jesus would then score and become the hero, I can just hear James screaming,
I mean what kid would want to be the
"Jan Brady" to Jesus' "Marsha Brady?"
Wow, can't you just imagine the scene,
James would play some childhood game and make an error and then perfect little Jesus would then score and become the hero, I can just hear James screaming,
"Marsha! Marsha! Marsha! or Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! LOL!
Now anyone with common sense knows that children will always be:
Inquisitive,
disrespectful, disobedient, and rebellious!
Jesus
was no exception to this rule!
Like we said, most of the stories about Jesus' early life are banned from the bible. However, one story was included that we all know of.
So let's begin there...
Like we said, most of the stories about Jesus' early life are banned from the bible. However, one story was included that we all know of.
So let's begin there...
Now we all have heard the story of how when Jesus was twelve, Joseph his father, took Him and his mother Mary to Jerusalem to observe the feast of Passover.
Coming back, Joseph and Mary join the caravan and believe Jesus is with them too.
But in fact, Jesus, slips away from the group and stays behind in Jerusalem.
After
a full day's journey, Joseph and Mary search for Jesus in the caravan, and not
finding Him, they return to Jerusalem.
Three days and three nights elapse before the parents discover Jesus in the temple, engaged in a dialogue with the priests.
If you have ever lost one of your kids - even for a fraction of a minute - you might have some idea of the terror Mary and Joseph endured over those nerve racking three days and three nights!
I mean a 12 year old child in the heart of a corrupt city such as Jerusalem? It's a wonder how she was able to keep it together without going into panic mode! I know I would have!
Now you guys know there will always be the few that still will have a slave master supporting: "Stockholm Syndrome" and will still want to believe the lies of the Grecian and Roman scribes. They will ridiculously say:
Three days and three nights elapse before the parents discover Jesus in the temple, engaged in a dialogue with the priests.
If you have ever lost one of your kids - even for a fraction of a minute - you might have some idea of the terror Mary and Joseph endured over those nerve racking three days and three nights!
I mean a 12 year old child in the heart of a corrupt city such as Jerusalem? It's a wonder how she was able to keep it together without going into panic mode! I know I would have!
Now you guys know there will always be the few that still will have a slave master supporting: "Stockholm Syndrome" and will still want to believe the lies of the Grecian and Roman scribes. They will ridiculously say:
"Mary and Joseph were not really worried about Jesus
because they already knew that Jesus was God even at the age of 12?
Yes
I know, stop shaking your heads at them.
They perish for a lack of knowledge and common sense.
Apparently these people do not read the scriptures for truthful understanding do they?
For if Joseph and Mary weren't really worried, why in the heck would Mary open her mouth to say to Jesus:
They perish for a lack of knowledge and common sense.
Apparently these people do not read the scriptures for truthful understanding do they?
For if Joseph and Mary weren't really worried, why in the heck would Mary open her mouth to say to Jesus:
"Son(Jesus), why have you done this to us? Your father (Joseph) and I (Mary) have been looking for you with great anxiety," Luke 2:48 NKJV
So as you can see, Joseph & Mary saw this as a great offense!
Just like other normal parents, Jesus' mother and father were in great anguish over the disappearance of their missing son.
Now, how does this prove that Jesus sinned?
Let's assume Jesus is God, as the theologians claim.
This would mean that deity/Divine Jesus certainly would not cause this great offense because that would mean he would be the author of confusion, right?
Surely, if this alleged 100% God-boy actually had to stay in Jerusalem, he would have had the common courtesy to inform his parents of his Godly duties instead of having them go through such agony and torment for three whole days and three whole nights searching the dangerous streets of Jerusalem, right?
But does Jesus do the appropriate thing? Does Jesus do the courteous thing? Does Jesus do the GODLY thing? Heck no!
Not only does this rebellious child decide he is grown enough to go off on his own, he decides to "SASS" his mother and disrespects her by talking back to her!
Luke
02:49
And
He said to them, "Why did you seek me? Did you not know that
I must be about My Father's business?
Oh no he didn't!
What does he mean why did they seek him?
As if he was a grown man or something?
Then either Jesus or Luke the Pagan, tries to justify his disobedience by claiming that Joseph and Mary should have known that he was doing God's business? Baloney!
Now we all know that story is bogus because Jesus' ministry did NOT begin until after he was "SANCTIFIED/CLEANSED" after his baptism, and eventually chosen/begotten by God !
Now the interesting thing about Jesus' bogus story is that just one chapter later, the very same writer, Luke, clearly contradicts Jesus and tells us that Jesus did not start his ministry for another 18 years!! Wow!
Luke 3:23:
Now
Jesus himself was about THIRTY YEARS OLD when he BEGAN his MINISTRY."
Don't
you just love it when God allows the BIBLE to contradict blatant
lies?
So clearly, Jesus wasn't doing his "Father's business!" This was a lie! Clearly Jesus wanted to do his own thing just as most disobedient and rebellious pre-teenagers have done since the beginning of time.
This my friends makes Jesus guilty of breaking one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS which says:
EXODUS 20:12
Honour thy father and
thy mother: that thy days may be long
upon the land which the Lord thy
God giveth thee.
Clearly Jesus was inconsiderate and did not have any thoughts about what how his parents would be in great fear and terror for him! Jesus didn't care!
He saw his opportunity to go on safari in the big city and wasn't going to allow his parents to stop him!
So what happened after Jesus' father and mother weren't gullible enough to fall for this tall tale foolishness of Jesus? Let's see:
Luke
02:51
"Then
He (Jesus) went down with them and came to Nazareth, and was subject
to them!"
UH OH! Somebody is in trouble, trouble!
Clearly, someone is is about to find out if their father obeys the Proverbs scripture on Godly discipline which says:
PROVERBS
13:24
"Whoever spares the "ROD (BELT)" hates their children but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline (SPANK) THEM!"
Wow!
So tell me? After spending 3 days and 3 nights
searching the big city in the midst of brothels, pubs, orphanages, gamblers,
thieves, beggars, homosexuals and pedophiles, which emotion
do you think Joseph and Mary have for their son?
Do you think they had "HATE" for him, i.e. the sparing of the rod or the LOVE, for him? I.e. they are careful to make sure this young boy, learns a valuable life lesson about disobedience and disrespect?,
Do you believe Joseph chose the careful and painful option of disciplining Jesus?
Those of us who had good parents, already KNOW which option a Godly man and a strong FATHER chose once the family returned home to Nazareth don't we!
I just wonder if Jesus had to sit on one butt cheek for a while just like I had too when my Grandfather once tanned my back side? LOL!
Now, once again, you read the scriptures on your own!
I am so glad that you had your bibles out so that I didn't have to do anything but basic commentary as you read along with me.
Does this change your opinion of Jesus because he sinned as all others do?
Well it should not!
Jesus never lied to us and claimed he was without sin, the Roman Church invented this lie and taught this falsehood to us.
As you can see, Jesus openly admitted that God had to sanctify him and cleanse him of his sins. Being 100% human only, Jesus naturally knew the difficulties we all face in this walk of life.
For 33 years, Jesus faced the same sin issues like us. Also like us, he conquered some, and he failed some.
But the great thing about this is that GOD(YHWH) looks past our infirmities and can take a sinner like Jesus, David, Moses etc., sanctify him, cleanse him of his sins, and then say:
"Thou, art my son, Today, or on THIS VERY DAY, have I begotten/chosen thee!
This is the true nature of the sons of God, the Disciples also confirmed this fact and said:
1st John 3
01:
"Behold, what manner of LOVE the FATHER (GOD) hath bestowed upon us (Disciples)
that we should be called the SONS of God."
2 Beloved, now are we the SONS of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he (GOD) shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth(SANCTIFIES) himself, even as he is pure.
2 Beloved, now are we the SONS of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he (GOD) shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth(SANCTIFIES) himself, even as he is pure.
Wow! This verse says it all doesn't it?
God reveals to us that Jesus, became a son/prophet of God after the "Sin-sanctification" process was completed.
In spite of the false theology of Roman-ized Christianity, The bible also shows us that the Levites, Priests and the Disciples, just like Jesus, were also known as the:
sons
of God by the exact same sin
sanctification process.
Never again, allow man-made theology or exegesis, brainwash you, clouding your God-given common sense!
Finally, there are other sins of Jesus in the bible too, but I think this chapter is long enough and insightful enough that anyone with an open-mind can now weed through the blatant lies of Roman and Greece. But to those who would like a list, at the end of this chapter there is a chart list that you can read on your own.
Don't forget your bibles so that you can see past the mythology foolishness from hence forth and forever.
May God bless you, for reading this and doing your due diligence for seeking Godly clarity over theology. Selah/Salaam/Shalom...
Table III-1 –
Summary of Examples of Torah Precepts vs. Teaching of Gospels
Subject
|
Torah
Precept
|
Gospels'
(Jesus') View
|
Kept/Violated
|
Family
Life
|
|||
Ÿ Marriage
& procreation
|
Gen
1:28
|
Silent
|
Violated
|
Ÿ
Treatment of parents
|
Exod
19:3, 20:12, 21:17 [Deut 5:16]
|
Mt
10:34-37, 12:46-50
[Lk
2:42-50, 14:26; Jn 2:3-4]
|
Violated
|
Ÿ Burying
the dead
|
Deut
21:23
|
Mt
8:22 [Lk 9:59-60]
|
Violated
|
The
Passover
|
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Ÿ
Leavened/Unleavened
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Exod
12:15,18,19,20, 13:3
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Mt
26:26
[Mk
14:22; Lk 24:30]
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Ÿ Paschal
lamb
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Exod
12:8-10
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Silent
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Violated
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Love
and brotherhood
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Mt 22:37-40]
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Treatment of Gentiles
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Exod
22:20; Deut 10:19
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Mt
15:22-27
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Violated
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Treatment of Jews
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Lev
19:17-18
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Mt
6:2,5, 23:13-33
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Violated
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Unchangeable
Torah
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{Deut
13:1 [4:2]}
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{Declaration:
Mt 5:17-19}
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Ÿ Adultery
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Lev
20:10; Deut 21:10-13
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Changed!
Mt
5:27-28 [Jn 8:3-11]
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Violated
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Ÿ Dietary
laws
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Leviticus
11
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Changed!
Mt
15:10-11,16-20
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Violated
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Ÿ Divorce
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Deut
24:1-2
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Changed!
Mt
5:31-32, 19:9 [Lk 16:18]
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Violated
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Ÿ Sabbath
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Exod
20:8-11, 16:22-30; Num 15:32-36
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Changed!
Mt
12:1-7 [Mk 2:23-26]
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Violated
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Nice stuff. Sometimes you sounds as if you actually believe what you are suggesting are legitimate questions. And in some of those occasions, I think they are questions that any reasonable person might ask - good questions that require good (and very available) answers. Other times you seem like you deliberately misrepresenting as if you expect your readers to be largely illiterate (like 'a son' vs 'the son' argument). I love some of the artwork btw and with or without your permission, I'll just go ahead and use it because I'm sure you wouldn't mind. If you do, let me know. I need a good laugh once in a while. :)
ReplyDeleteMark Gostlin I do believe what I am suggesting. and notice it's been months and not one person has come on here and presented even one single error in actual context? That should tell you something...
Deleteif you feel I am in error, simply come join us on facebook at CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FINALLY AWAKE AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DECEPTION. There you can present your findings and the entire group will analyze and discuss your truths and also your falsehoods, is that fair? We want the same heaven that you want. So let's reason together in LOVE and get there together.. See you soon in our facebook group.. Peace...
You sighted Hebrews 4:15 about Him being tempted but you failed mention that the verse ends with... "YET WITHOUT SIN" I think you are trying to understand infinite truths with your finite mind.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous no I didn't fail to mention YET WITHOUT SIN because the writer is giving his opinions not facts. Because if you have actual read the scriptures in my blog, That writer cannot be correct if Jesus Himself says He was a sinner? Did you read Jesus' words? Was Jesus lying when He says he was a sinner. Here is another point Anonymous, I've always said that the bible has been tampered with and re written by the Romans and Greeks so they can stay in control. With that being said, The book of Hebrews contradicts itself as well, For you quote Hebrews 4:15 but if you go just to the very next chapter, it tells you that JESUS not only SINNED but God actually punished Jesus for his OWN DISOBEDIENCE... So that means, multiple ghost writers are writing chapters and contradicting themselves.. ALL of them cannot even remotely be correct. so WHICH PART do we then believe? The 4:15 yet without sin PART from someone who wasn't even there to know if Jesus sinned or not, or the CHAPTER 5 part where it says, Jesus had to LEARN OBEDIENCE like a bad child by the things he SUFFERED??? again, I choose chapter 5 based off Jesus' own words that HE WAS A SINNER. Either Jesus is a liar or he is telling the truth that he was a sinner like you and I? You have to decide for yourself or keep believing the lies of IMPOSTER PAUL, ROME, GREECE AND SATAN...
Deleteif you feel I am in error, simply come join us on facebook at CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FINALLY AWAKE AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DECEPTION. There you can present your findings and the entire group will analyze and discuss your truths and also your falsehoods, is that fair? We want the same heaven that you want. So let's reason together in LOVE and get there together.. See you soon in our facebook group.. Peace...
Repent of this foolishness. Turn to the Christ of the scripture and repent from your twisting of the holy writ.
ReplyDeleteUnknown, it's sad that people are too afraid of truth so choose to label everything they don't believe as foolishness. if I misquoted any of the scriptures I provided in this blog, by all means cut and paste my errors. if you cannot do that then, admit that Jesus is correct about him sinning and stop blaming me.. I didn't write those verses...
DeleteI cannot even begin to point out how absolutely screwed up your understanding of Scripture is. And no, I won't take your bait when you tell me to point out all the places you are wrong. I honestly don't have the months it would take to correct this. Besides, I doubt seriously that if I did take the time, you'd listen anyway.
ReplyDeleteWell unknown sounds like a cop out to me. If I had a dollar for ever person who claims I am wrong. then pull the old duck and dodge routine and claim it would take months just to paste one single error? LOL do I have to say anymore my friend... LOL.. Be blessed.. Remember, I had no problem posting your opposition on here. Yet to anyone reading. all they will see is someone so afraid to change that they will just lash out but have no teeth to bite... have a great evening...
DeleteI got not even 1/4 and found that this person who wrote this blog has no idea what he or she is saying or even remotely understands the bible nor God.
DeleteAnonymous, see there lies your problem, you were so afraid at the 1/4 mark that you closed your mind to the actual scriptures and instead like most, chose to lash out at me as did the Pharisees at Jesus for teaching a truth that is foreign to you. You aren't the first and won't be the last my friend... if you feel I am in error, simply come join us on facebook at CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FINALLY AWAKE AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DECEPTION. There you can present your findings and the entire group will analyze and discuss your truths and also your falsehoods, is that fair? We want the same heaven that you want. So let's reason together in LOVE and get there together.. See you soon in our facebook group.. Peace...
DeleteYour first "Logical" question is a farce,Credit cards don't work that way,Hence they are called "credit"cards.You don't even understand how wordly things work and yet you are trying to explain Spiritual realities?Everything you said after your "logical" credit card comment is utter foolish nonsense.
ReplyDeleteGood evening Unknown. It's sad, that your only argument is how credit cards work and not on God's truth. Now if your credit card is to the max limit, your card will come up declined. sir or ma'am.. LOL, or have you paid with cash all your life? LOL...
DeleteSo if you can't even come to that logical conclusion. of course you would ASSUME everything else I said after that is utter foolishness and nonsense. Why? Because it means a Godly change of thought would have to happen in your mindset and in your heart. And most Roman-ized Christians do not want to ever believe they are the ones that can be duped by the church, preacher, Imposter Paul or Satan. So we lash out at others and claim they are foolish, or un saved, or working for the devil. That way, they can stay in blissful ignorance, not knowing that one day their souls will be required of them. All because of an arrogant heart wouldn't allow them to just open up their bibles and read another's point of view in bible context over church dogma. I hope you rethink your position unknown, and just read for truth. instead of focusing on me. a NO ONE, who just loves the same God that you do..
if you feel I am in error, simply come join us on facebook at CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FINALLY AWAKE AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DECEPTION. There you can present your findings and the entire group will analyze and discuss your truths and also your falsehoods, is that fair? We want the same heaven that you want. So let's reason together in LOVE and get there together.. See you soon in our facebook group.. Peace...
All this blogger has done is brought judgement down upon himself. This blogger's only interest is willfully portray Christ in a very derogatory way...he is not interested in truth or anything else. One day...his knees will bow and he will be without excuse...
ReplyDeleteGood evening wdv. The bible does say Judge ye not lest ye be judge right? So it's funny how you have done God's job and have brought JUDGMENT down upon me as if you are God? Do you see any problem with that? Probably not, because, ANGER & ARROGANCE two of Satan's favorite sins clouds your thought process
DeleteWDV, Most Roman-ized Christians do not want to ever believe they are the ones that can be duped by the church, preacher, Imposter Paul or Satan. So we lash out at others and claim they are foolish, or un saved, or working for the devil. That way, they can stay in blissful ignorance, not knowing that one day their souls will be required of them. All because of an arrogant heart wouldn't allow them to just open up their bibles and read another's point of view in bible context over church dogma. I hope you rethink your position unknown, and just read for truth. instead of focusing on me. a NO ONE, who just loves the same God that you do.. I am a Christian too just not a ROMAN-IZED one. So you are in error as to my intent to portray Jesus in a derogatory way. my true intent is to teach what Jesus taught and that is that there is only ONE GOD and Jesus is not a god in any capacity but he was just a man who was APPROVED/CHOSEN by God Read Acts 2:22 that is what the Disciples and even the Apostles believed before the Roman Church invented the blasphemy known as the Trinity doctrine...
if you feel I am in error, simply come join us on facebook at CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FINALLY AWAKE AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DECEPTION. There you can present your findings and the entire group will analyze and discuss your truths and also your falsehoods, is that fair? We want the same heaven that you want. So let's reason together in LOVE and get there together.. See you soon in our facebook group.. Peace...
What I've just read is hilarious. The ignorance is astounding. Jesus still loves you though, maybe you should open your mind beyond what the world tells you and see what actually makes sense.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous Good evening, why is it that When Christians read something they have never heard before, first the claim something is hilarious and then they call us the ignorant ones? That is pure arrogance. Satan's greatest sin... A WISE PERSON always says "SHOW ME THAT" and they ask "WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?" For a Wise person knows that no one has a MONOPOLY on TRUTH..
DeleteSo Anonymous. it amazes me, how little ROMAN-IZED CHRISTIANS give reverence to the MOST HIGH YAH as if He doesn't matter, even though Jesus says it is THE MOST HIGH that desires ALL OF our worship in spirit and in truth. YET, somehow, we choose to ignore those words of Jesus and accept PAUL the imposter's and FALSE PROPHET's words over the words of Jesus and choose to IGNORE worshiping the MOST HIGH YHWH in spirit and in truth but give his creation, I.E. JESUS all WORSHIP instead... THINK about that sometime..
if you feel I am in error, simply come join us on facebook at CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FINALLY AWAKE AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DECEPTION. There you can present your findings and the entire group will analyze and discuss your truths and also your falsehoods, is that fair? We want the same heaven that you want. So let's reason together in LOVE and get there together.. See you soon in our facebook group.. Peace...
Any one who try to explain bible must
ReplyDeleteread the complete context of the statement to know on what basis & what circumstances that word is applied to.
Other wise the explanation becomes baseless & argument take the logical direction which is no way related to Scripture
Like the *painting* which is mentioned is
Bible does not say anything about Painting of Christ so How he looked/Which stance he was sitting in last supper/how he was hanging
The artist of these paintings were born much later of those days & they used the best of their
imagination to suit culture of their times which is no way even close to Jews/Greeks of that time
Feel free to ask By God I will clear your doubts of Jesus is GOD.
There have been many before & After him tried to speak & act like him.
But Miraculous Work of The Holey Ghost channelized only through his name. & what ever he said is happening one by one. Though it was told long Ago
You Will be amazed to Know our Generation has seen more than any other generations has seen his words materializing.
Mail me at sanjeetjee@gmail.com
you will also know. BELIVE HIM You will see miracles in your life too.
Stop Judging your Father/Master Start following Him
Sanjeet Jee I agree with your statement on context. Yet Christians do not believe in that statement. We are taught by our leaders to ignore contextual scriptures as written and instead to focus on our church's creed which is based on nothing but opinions and inbred Pagan traditions. We have even come up with a man-made doctrine called "FORESHADOWING" which is a ridiculous way of making Jesus or even Adolph Hitler fit into singular verses in order to make a non prophecy into a prophecy. For example, the falsehood of the virgin birth in Isaiah which even our own bibles tell us that the Greeeks word for virgin was not Isaiah's thought of a woman having a baby without a human sperm donor. Yet as you can the LIE continues to this day and Christians would rather die than give up Christmas and their pagan traditions... Sanjeet, if you want to have an open discussion then come and join our group on facebook called CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FINALLY AWAKE AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DECEPTION... There you can provide your facts to the group and we will also analyze your verses and talk about the context, the history, and the deception based off truth without the exegetical false dogma of the church. is that fair? Then thanks for commenting and see you there..
DeleteComplete nonsense. I can walk with you through each one of the author's points and prove his logic is corrupt and he has not read the Bible to make such statements. Anyone willing to discuss this step by step?
ReplyDeletelurri Aniper, I respect your opinion. But it amazes me how people can assume they know so much about me all because the knowledge that I share is foreign to them? So instead of being a seeker of truth and reading for an understanding. they lash out at us with claims that it just has to be us that are deceived. Lurii and that is your right to believe whatever you like no matter how untrue or Un-Godly it may be... My job is to present God's truth to your carnal mind from a carnal bible that he had published so that your carnal mind can first know WHO He is, and what He desires of us. Then and only then, can we become "spiritual" as "ONE" with God. It doesn't work in reverse like Christianity teaches... Sorry...
Deletelurii if you want to have an open discussion then come and join our group on facebook called CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FINALLY AWAKE AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DECEPTION... No insults or ridicule of your beliefs. Just bible facts verses passed down falsehoods. There you can provide your facts to the group and we will also analyze your verses and talk about the context, the history, and the deception based off truth without the exegetical false dogma of the church. is that fair? Then thanks for commenting and see you there..
Your assumptions are based on ignorance, presuppositions and biases from a secular naturalistic worldview. Even when I leave a link to try to help you in your understanding in Christ, you are more likely to ignore it and willfully suppress the knowledge of Truth because of your biases of a secular naturalistic worldview (I know this because I been there and done that). This is my comment to you, NOT a debate! I cannot persuade you to the reality of this fallen world, Man in his depravity, and God's plan for man. It would be liken unto trying to describe color to a blind man.
ReplyDeleteBut, hey, I'm willing to direct you in the right direction to what a study of Christ (Christology) entails. It's up to you whether you want to investigate Christology farther, but here is a link to help you understand what Christology is.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Christology.html
Good evening Anonymous.. LOL, looking at your response, I must say it made me smile at the irony. Because Romanized Christianity is based off the same ignorance, presuppositions and biases not to mention passed down GREEK AND ROMAN PAGANISM rituals. LOL. So you understand my humor at this hypocrisy... LOL
DeleteFor years, Anonymous, people have tried to use their own experiences as reference to the walk of others, like you just did. I am so sorry that you never found that true teacher of the Most High YAH to give you instructions. This will make most seekers just give up and submit to the awful brainwashing of Roman-ized Christianity. I feel your frustration and pain.
Worst is the fact that humans never want to be seen as ignorant or vulnerable. So we lash out and refuse to hear any other points of view than what has been taught us. This is called the PHARISEE PRINCIPLE.. Anonymous. Think about if you were born during Yeshua's/Jesus' day. and this Nazarene Prophet came up to you teaching you something totally different than anything you've learned in the temple
Please don't tell us, that you would be so overwhelmed by this man, that you would just give up and follow Him. YOU WOULD NOT.. you would say, his assumptions are based on ignorance, presuppositions and biases that he had from a Nazarene, secular world view. and you would side with the PHARISEES/CHRISTIANS..
My job is to present God's truth to your carnal mind from a carnal bible that he had published so that your carnal mind can first know WHO He is, and what He desires of us. Then and only then, can we become "spiritual" as "ONE" with God. It doesn't work in reverse like Christianity teaches... Sorry...
Anonymous if you want to have an open discussion then come and join our group on facebook called CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FINALLY AWAKE AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DECEPTION... No insults or ridicule of your beliefs. Just bible facts verses passed down falsehoods. There you can provide your facts to the group and we will also analyze your verses and talk about the context, the history, and the deception based off truth without the exegetical false dogma of the church. is that fair? Then thanks for commenting and see you there..
Wow! Don’t believe I’ve ever read anything from God’s word that’s been so twisted. Proves the carnal mind’s inability to process God’s word.
ReplyDeleteThe author clearly has an agenda at hand, knows what he's doing, and is purposely posting the slander. I'm just curious as to what force is pushing him and what's their goal. Maybe I'm wrong all together and he's just some internet troll looking for kicks, but ended up making his post way to long to get the desired troll effect.
Deletephantom yes I have an agenda and that is to expose the lies added to the bible in the name of Jesus which clearly show just how far the Roman empire would go to force us to disobey God and to create a new one world order religion. With them in charge of it of course. I'm sorry you feel it's twisted, but come join us on facebook in the group: Christians who are finally awake and know the truth about the deception. There we will use only the bible in context to show you what you won't learn in the biased Romanized churches.
DeleteI've encountered all types of fakes and trolls; Atheist shills (the dumbest), Freemason shills (most dangerous), Satanist shills (sneakiest), Kabbalist shills (lamest) and Putin shills (most annoying). You however are the most silliest as you, throughout the long troll bait, are not sure whether you want to be a Zeitgeist preacher, a mystery religion sect crazy, or a fedora lard on a messageboard. Every time you attempt to be one you lose your ground on when you previously wanted to be one of the others. For example you'll start off in Zeitgeist mode to look as though you're about to lay down the next DaVinci Code book.
ReplyDeleteThen suddenly you'll blunder that by making fedora-lard memes as if you're teasing the audience all along. That's when you'll lay down some weird "hidden ancient knowledge" factoid you pulled out of your ass, but that won't even go through because you established yourself as a prankster troll in the last sentence.
If you're going to troll us, at least be consistent and practice brevity so you look more sincere. Whatever humor you were attempted got completely destroyed by the fact that it was expanded into a novel of text. It felt like I was watching Guardians of the Galaxy all over again.
Let me just give some examples of the flaws in what little arguments you actually attempt to make:
Matthew 11:19, you made some meme of some fat guy mocking Jesus. In Matthew 11:19 Jesus Christ was ACCUSED of being a drunkard and a glutton simply because he just ate and drank (as all humans do because if not we tend to die). They're trying to emphasize that his opponents were so out to slander Him and tarnish his reputation that they accused Him of being everything under the sun and doing everything evil under the sun. Later on in the Bible the opponents of Jesus Christ even have the audacity to accuse the Lord of having a demon in Him. But like I said, those were accusations done by jerks. It's like me holding the door for a pregnant woman and some jack-wagon accuses me of being an adulterer with her. But you're a troll so....
Then there's the part when you accuse Jesus of brutality against thieves in the temple. The Temple is HIS house. HIS Father's house. Burglars inside of people's houses tend to get their asses beat or shot. Also know that Jesus being the Son of God and capable and fully in His authority to dispense justice, acted in no wrong doing. You literally realize this individual (Christ) is going to return as a one man conquering force yes? An authoritative figure, such as Jesus Christ, can and will use violent force against you. He isn't some passive force that does nothing as the universe would surely cave in on itself. You try vandalizing a Police Station or a Military Installation and see if you don't end up bruised or with a 5.56 round through your body.
"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities.
For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God."
Exactly...You have God on earth right there, Einstein.
But either way, I want you to answer this question: which group are you from? Which special interest group specifically? A fraternal order? A Kabbalist group? Which one? I'm just interested in knowing. We know you're ilk does this all the time, but I'm just curious.
I'm sorry you feel it's twisted, but come join us on facebook in the group: Christians who are finally awake and know the truth about the deception. There we will use only the bible in context to show you what you won't learn in the biased Romanized churches.
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